### Automate It Ep \#55: Adrian from Foxglove

Adrian Macneil, CEO of Foxglove, gives us a deep dive on the state of robotics developer tools, why debugging robots is still a mess, and what it takes to build a software company in a hardware-heavy industry.

Ep 55 - Adrian from Foxglove on the State of Robotics Today - Automate It: A Robotics Podcast | Spotify

[Ep 55 - Adrian from Foxglove on the State of Robotics Today](https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Vt5daeTKRYGVJpYJAvHkJ?go=1&sp_cid=9bcd38deb354aace83088fb4527071a6&utm_source=embed_player_v&utm_medium=desktop)

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On Ep 55 of Automate It, we invite Adrian Macneil, CEO of [Foxglove](https://foxglove.dev/), to play the robot game -- which takes a turn into pest control, debating whether humanoid robots should stomp or grab mice. Then, Adrian gives us a deep dive on the state of robotics developer tools, why debugging robots is still a mess, and what it takes to build a software company in a hardware-heavy industry. Plus: why robotics is where SaaS was in the early 2000s—and what that means for the future.

Watch the episode now on [**Spotify**](https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Vt5daeTKRYGVJpYJAvHkJ?si=ukYHKRBMQO-RC4ov3gy3kg) or [**Youtube**](https://youtu.be/_fFh7GtE3bI?si=2VkbVoWswLeLjV0i).

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